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Shadow-Hunter · Jun 21, 2006, 10:01 AM // 10:01

/Not signed.
Increasing the item storage space would be better.. It would benefit both the ppl with one mill ++ and the ppl with no money... More storage space would allow the rich ppl to buy more items for their money, seeing as how they now can hold the items they buy.. If you dont want to buy more items for the money, and still just want the gold limit to be higher, just so you can have alot of money laying in the storage without using em... then i dont see why not just invest em in ectos, and see the price fall, seeing how you dident want to use the gold anyway :S

~Shadow

nugzta · Jun 21, 2006, 10:18 AM // 10:18

/signed

As player who likes pve, its easy to get golds especially when you dont have anything else to do (eg. done the game multiple times with different characters). Farming is what mostly people do anyway in pve, what else?

Riceboi · Jun 21, 2006, 10:34 AM // 10:34

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

Without visiting that site, I know what it says because I use it on my friends. If I am an idiot because you ebay, then I think you need counseling because there is something seriously wrong with you.

Can't store more than a million gold? If you cant find things to buy, why do you need more money?

I don't ebay gold, but at one time did need more storage for gold. You know it is possible to get a lot of gold in this game without ebaying.

Undivine · Jun 21, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

I hesitate to say this because I know where this thread is going, and I'm sure I will have to close it.

But anyway, ANet does what it can to balance the economy of the game. Now, there is such a thing as inflation; when too much gold enters the market, the value of gold drops, leading to rediculous prices of 400K for a stupid gold axe. The problem here is that such trades are completely inaccessible for many people, but for the super-rich who farmed or bought their gold from one of those sweat-shop gold farming companies, such trades are commonplace. This means the ability to trade and buy gold items doesn't exist for the casual player, new players, or non-farmers.

Increasing the cap that you can store only encourages this inflation that ANet is trying to slow. This is the whole point of gold sinks like the 15K and Obsidian armors.

That is people's beef with it.

Beat_Go_Stick · Jun 21, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Haha!

My storage was full before I gave most of my fortune away and, you know what? That's plenty of freakin' money! You obviously can't find a way to spend it now, how will it help to be able to accumulate more?

*Snip* (Edited by moderator to be a tad less flamey) *Snip*

/notsigned

*shrug* Trading methods could be improved but I see no real problem with the gold maximum.....odds are if you're trading in gold and ecto, you are doing better than a lot of people in this game and should be happy with that. The people signing this bring an image to my mind of Bill Gates getting pissed because he can't find a comfortable wallet that can be carried easily in his pocket while simultaneously allowing him to carry enough cash to buy a new home on the fly.

Maybe the thread should be redone as an "improve gold trading to include storage gold" instead of the current "let us get richer" topic...I'd sign that but this, this is comedy.

Viperwire · Jun 21, 2006, 09:41 PM // 21:41

I personally could say that I have 7 accounts, all of which have gold on them, no not maxed to people who want to shout ebay at the site of fissure armor (Cept on warriors ;D). I have maxed out to 5.6mil when I had 4 accounts, it was very annoying because I couldn't find anything to spend it on, and even with handing money and items and such to guildies, it didn't really change the mass amount. Simply, perfect drops equal alot of gold, but if the gold limit were to increase, I believe the economy would go to hell. I understand how 1.4mil gold on each account is a small seeming limit, but here's what you could do, buy some stuff for your guildies..if you're not in a "idiotic" guild. Or you could just continue doing your PvE or PvP and invest in black dyes as someone else suggested, the price for those has not changed by much in the past 13 months I've played. (Btw, if you only do PvE, you are missing out on a very great part of guild wars, PvP/GvG's).

/notsigned

Captain Arne Is PRO · Jun 21, 2006, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Undivine

15K and FoW armor and things like that are meant to be gold sinks. In other words, they are to get rid of gold. People who play the game normally will not eventually get 1M. I have 3 characters over a year old, yet my money only amounts to 40K, and I still haven't bought a lot of the new 15K armor. I only made that money with a good sale of a few nice gold items (at reasonable prices). Don't forget that when a new chapter is released, a lot of people start spending like crazy.

There is no sense hoarding your gold. There is no sense in continuing to farm more when you're so damn rich either. If you need something to do but insist on playing Guild Wars, I guess you're out of luck. And by the way, part of the reason you have nothing to do is because you have so much farmed gold and can buy absolutely everything you need right on the release of a new expansion.

Not true.

I have played normally since the day Guild Wars came out (excluding a 6 month break I took) and I am currently sitting on 920k + a couple hundred thousand in items. I have NEVER solo'd the UW, I have solo'd the FoW maybe 20 times, and I recently salvaged three sets of 15k armor so I could get better looking factions armor. I have NEVER eBayed.

So yes, normal people CAN indeed reach 1 million gold. My friend hit 1 million gold a month after Guild Wars was released.

But no, not /signed. I have worked hard for 13 months to reach my goal of a maxed out storage, I don't want to be shortcome suddenly by a limit increase! :O

EagleEye33 · Jun 21, 2006, 11:09 PM // 23:09

I couldnt care less about having more gold, by the time i get close to filling up, i see something I wanna buy :P.

Besides I would rather just have more ROOM in the storage rather than a "wallet increase"

shadowfell · Jun 21, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18

/Signed.. Raise it to 5 Million and let us trade more than 100 plat in cash at a time.

makosi · Jun 21, 2006, 11:43 PM // 23:43

/Notsigned

inscribed · Jun 22, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21

I am a casual player, but I have 500k+ gold in storage currently. It really is not hard to make money in this game if you are smart about it. One of the most enjoyable things about this game, imo, is playing with the economy. Buying low, selling high, grabbing that rare skinned item before it floods the market and selling for obscene amounts. Back when I played WoW, I spent a large amount of my time at the auction house, looking for ways to make money. It's fun.

Now, I never really spend my gold on anything, and I don't really care if Anet increases gold storage because the playerbase will just find ways to adapt to it, such as using ecto as currency. The thing that annoys me, though, is the fact that some of you can come on here and actually tell ME that I don't need that much gold since I'm not spending it, or that just because you don't want to spend a little time making gold, then I shouldn't sell an item for more than 100k.

Not everyone who buys an item for a large amount of gold is an idiot. Not everyone who sells an item for alot of gold is a professional farmer. Not everyone that has large amounts gold had to ebay it. Some players simply have this thing called 'intelligence', and by using it, they can make as much gold as they want.

Bomb · Jun 22, 2006, 01:08 AM // 01:08

I originally thought that it wasn't a bad idea, but it is. We need more stuff to spend the money on, not more money. Add more gold sinks for the rich people ANet!

Claudia Starlight · Jun 22, 2006, 01:10 PM // 13:10

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Originally Posted by Captain Arne Is PRO

But no, not /signed. I have worked hard for 13 months to reach my goal of a maxed out storage, I don't want to be shortcome suddenly by a limit increase! :O

same thing for me here

/notsigned

KiyaKoreena · Jun 22, 2006, 02:53 PM // 14:53

/signed

After playing for over a year now, my husband and I noticed most of the people in the PUGs that we have seen complaining about having no money are the ones that leave the "piddly white drops" on the ground. These are the same people that accuse anyone with more money then them of ebaying it. Those piddly drops got us to our first mil. Now we have a combined 4 mil + across four accounts and none of it was ebayed. It was made slowly by picking stuff that dropped in missions, when exporing areas, and reselling things for a few extra plats. I gamble on chests all the time, my guild is now calling me the incorrigable chest fiend, yet one decent drop can put me back in the black for that area. We have 15k sets for most of our playing characters and have bought the occasional whim expensive weapon. There will be more GW expansions in the future, why can't we save our gold AS gold for buying stuff then? If we have 12+ characters and will want to buy them all cool new armors dont tell me to waste my money on other things I dont want now. Gold sitting in someone storage does not affect the market anymore than gold sitting on a monster waiting to drop does. (Oh no! The gold in XX's storage is attacking the town because it got too big!) At least if they wont increase the size of gold storage then please introduce a material that has a set equal buy/sell price. Mmm platinum brick worth 10 plat. Stackable, great for trade, never have to worry about its price fluctuating, and if you cant afford to have them it wont kill you.

Cjlr · Jun 22, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09

You can make 1000000 gold very easily. It's never interested me, and I've never accumulated more than about 40k in storage, but if you want the money, it's there.

If you can make 1k in five minutes (and that's a fairly low figure), it will take you approximately 80 hours to max your storage. Add to that another 600k, for all your characters, and it's 130 hours. At two hours per day, maximum, that's three months. If you were really interested in maxing out, you'd probably end up farming more than two hours per day. Plus, you'd probably get some lucky drops which would sell for a lot more than your standard merchant fodder. So figure a little over a month (around forty days) if you spend three or four hours daily farming.

Without that cap, the money supply increases constantly on a per person basis. And that means inflation. If you can get one million in a month, you'd have a net worth of over thirteen million by now. And that's a big number. If you've got that much cash slushing around, prices will rise. Big time.

Sure, it's play money. But it is still money. Technically (that is, sans EBay) it isn't worth anything in the real world, but in-game it is still a medium of exchange. You can trade it for things you either could not obtain or are not willing to obtain yourself. The inflation brought on by a swollen money supply puts things beyond the reach of both new players, who haven't had time to accumulate wealth, and casual players, who haven't bothered.

Added: Hyperinflation gets you fun stuff like this, a 5000000000 dollar bill. Or something like Brazilian Cruzeiros - a single Cruzeiro from the 1960s is now worth one trillionth of one cent in American dollars. That's $0.00000000000001.

KiyaKoreena · Jun 22, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

I still dont see this hyperinflation happening, or if it does lasting long at all. Recent example being when the Totem Axe came out. For the first few hours it was going for 100k or so and all the people with money to burn were burning away. Then more started farming it and supply and demand kicked in and now the things go for 10k. The price now is reasonable for those without large stashes of gold. You can apply this to nearly every green. On pretty much all items those with lots of money will pay lots in the beginning, but once that group has their loot and more keeps coming into the market the price will always go down. Those without the money to burn just have to use a little patience and wait.

samifly · Jun 23, 2006, 07:54 AM // 07:54

Add more gold sinks and you wont need to increase the cap.

Malice Black · Jun 25, 2006, 12:54 AM // 00:54

hmm you all seem to bash the idea yet hardly any of you can come up with an original idea as to why not..

im hardly a hardcore player these days i play for less then 10hours a week if that yet if i wanted to i can farm 100k within a day if not a few hours..only takes 1 good drop to make 100k+

yes 1mill+ in a single trade is possible ive made a few in the 11months ive played (flame me if u wish with the "ebayer" crap blah blah)

another decent goldsink tho not a new idea is the best if they wont increase storage/gold amount

more exspensive armor (yes better the FoW) <~~another ebay comment will be thrown at that *yawn*

more rare weapons - unless they cant be farmed there is no point (new drops from HoH chest perhaps) over farming killed the new weapons they have added already

IDS - went from 100k+ecto to 10k
shadow blades - from 700k to 50k
totem axe - 50k+ to 10k within a week

shmek · Jun 25, 2006, 01:49 AM // 01:49

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Originally Posted by streets101

I couldnt check if this has already been posted because the search button was down.

I have surpassesd the Gold coin capacity on all my characters and in storage many times. This time i started to keep my money in ecto but im in fear that prices may plunge and so will my gold.

My question to Anet was will they be upgrading the storage capacity for charactors or the storage vault box. Anet answered that I should post it on forums to get other users comments and regards if they have the same issue.

Ty for all your comments in advance. Hopfully Anet will upgrade this.

/signed and I am late to farming and will never use this option.

For all the tax favoring bleeding hearts wanting wealth redistribution tactics even in games please consider that just because these people are more fortunate then you or WORK harder then you, that you are not entitled to their life. It's just a form of abinable stealing done by the masses you are supporting.

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

hmm you all seem to bash the idea yet hardly any of you can come up with an original idea as to why not..
IDS - went from 100k+ecto to 10k
shadow blades - from 700k to 50k
totem axe - 50k+ to 10k within a week

Nice to see some thinking going on instead of all the jealous girlymen whining.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowfell

/Signed.. Raise it to 5 Million and let us trade more than 100 plat in cash at a time.

I do like the trade amount capped at 100k gold though.

Da Cebuano · Jun 25, 2006, 11:08 AM // 11:08

Basically the only people who don't want the increase are the ones:

A. Afraid of a whiplash but can't come up w/ a good reason.
B. Afraid of a whiplash w/ the same argument of huge deflation w/o a solid argument but it'll happen if gold limit is increase somehow.(as of some people already don't have enough money -_-) Stupid crap like Wheelborrow of cash to buy a loaf of bread... you guys do realize that only few people have the kinda cash and they are already own it ingame, ecto is considered cash nowadays. People who have 1000 ecto in their storage might as well have 8 million gold, nothing is gonna change from the mess it is now other than the people who already have asanine amount of money have an option to liquidate their resources or keep it in investment form, it will hardly affect the masses of "nerf nerf nerf" other than them B!tch!ng about some people having too much money and they ebayed harder and stuff like that.
C. Can't make it to the 1000k limit.
D. Afraid they can't reach the new limit if increased.
E. Going w/ everybody else cause they don't wanna disagree w/ the masses.

Oh and last and not the least, The GOLD SINKS SUCK on some level cause they don't appeal to everyone's taste. I mean FOW ARMOR? I already got my monk 1 but all others are just 0_o <-*thats not positive* The only reason other than looks that I even got it was a status change when FOW was only accessible to the people who can find their way ingame to do anything they want. Anyway, I doubt the increase will happen none the less, as ANET is much more focused on updates that really aren't required more so than the ones some people need. Heck I have still yet to see my suggestion of party rerolling in order and storage item removal in pcs not by stack.